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Originally posted by Steve Steve wrote:

I have been fortunate to get ownership of a full set of Wonderland stamps, both the 1940 and 1865 series. These look to be much older than the recent set I have. I won't list all the differences, but suffice to say many of quite different colours and different sizes to the recent printings. I see in the Reference Materials thread a 1st to 4th print listed. Could these be a 4th printing, when do they date from, and does anyone know what print number Gerry is up to now?

I will put them up here as three posts.

 
Steve, very nice set of Wonderland stamps with detailed descriptions next to the stamps... thanks for posting...
 
The stamps are all 4th Printing... printed in colours on various coloured papers... and smaller formats than the previous printings… Please see more below…
 
I have tried to update the information for the different printings (Wonderland 1865 and Looking-Glass Land 1871)... including input from Keith in previous messages…:
 
1st Printing (1965):
 
34 stamps (36 stamps, if the variants of the “National Wildlife Week” and the “Freedom from Hunger” stamps counts), Large format, Printed in black only on various coloured papers, Perforated 11 3/4" (poor attempt at perforating the first issue) and Imperforated.
 
Printed by: Red Lodge Press (Only the first printing was done by them).
 
Some of the printed sheets from Red Lodge Press were sent to Harry Rooke (Cinderella journalist for the magazine "Stamp Collecting Weekly") who in turn sent them to someone who had a perforating machine.  They came back with at least two thirds badly perforated right into the design. Gerald never used this person again as he by this time had been contacted by Dave Stirling who had his own machine and was much better at it.
 
2nd Printing (Last half of 1970’s):
 
Large format, black ink on 10 different coloured papers, Box-rouletted 13 1/2”.
 
Printed by: TBD
 
New stamps: The “Too Late”-stamp (7 1/2 Winks), the “Mourning”-stamp (2 Golden Slumbers), the “Postage Due”-stamp (4 Winks), the “Alice’s Coronation”-stamp (20 Winks), a strongly retouched “2nd Botanical Congress” (2 Golden Slumbers), the “Health”-stamp (4 Winks and 2 Winks), the “Political Prisoner’s Relief Fund” (Half Wink) has been “relieved” of another ¼ Wink.
For the “Freedom from Hunger” (leg of mutton) issue the well-known major plate flaw (Cracked Plate) in pair with normal, the flaw now appears on the left-hand copy of the stamps.
Furthermore, the 1 Wink and the 3 Winks Alice heads were printed in blocks of 4.
 
3rd Printing (Late 1970’s):
 
To provide additional definitives for use on covers, a special plate was laid down providing blocks of nine of the 1 Wink and the 3 Winks values, with designer’s imprint in the lower left corner “Dodo, Lory & Co.”.
Frame breaks permit plating of all nine positions of the 1 Wink, but in any case each stamp, as the 3 Winks, bears code letters: AA- AB – AC / BA – BB – BC / CA – CB – CC etc.
Furthermore, the third stamp (code letters AC) of the 3 Winks is inverted.
 
The printing was carried out by “Storyville Publications & Co.” of Walthamstow, with black ink on matt surface-coloured paper, imperforate, in 10 colours (white, pale blue, yellow, pale orange, dark orange, pale green, dark green, pink, red and mauve).
 
The layout of the third printing part sheet:
The denomination was cleared from the 1 Wink design, and new values created. These were laid down in two rows of five stamps, denominations being 1/2, 1/2, 2, 2, 4, 5 (all in Winks) in the top row, and below 1/2, 1/2, 8, 10, 20 (all in Winks) and the “Political Prisoner’s Relief Fund” (Half Wink). Two different types of the 1/2 Winks denominations (diagonal fraction bar versus horizontal fraction bar).
Above the two rows, the two blocks of nine and between the blocks a new high-value definitive of 1 Golden Slumber, and flanking the se-tenant block another new design, a super-sized 30 Winks Jabberwocky Centennial value.
 
The book “Alice Through The Pillar-box” (from 1979) mainly shows 1st Printing stamps and 2nd Printing stamps, and the last couple of pages of the book also gives examples of the 3rd Printing stamps.
 
4th Printing (1982):
 
Smaller format (compared to the previous printings), Coloured stamps on coloured and white papers, Perforated 11 3/4" and Imperforated.
 
Six different authentic ink colours of the Victorian period: deep shades of blue, green and carmine, reddish-brown and claret as well as black.
Four different paper colours: white, buff, pale blue and rose.
24 varieties of each stamp.
 
Printed by: The Phantasmagoria Security Printing Co.
 
Catalogue covering the 4th Printing stamps: "Curiouser and Curiouser" (January 1982)
 
5th Printing (2000):
 
Smaller format (compared to the previous printings), Multi Coloured stamps on white papers, Perforated 11 3/4".
 
Printed by: The Phantasmagoria Security Printing Co.
 
Catalogue covering the 5th Printing stamps: "The Millennium Collection" (June 2000)

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Thanks for the clarification Jesper. Especially for matching printings against the publications. What does concern me is that with 24 varieties for each stam of the 4th printing how many complete collections are required for completeness of just this one printing!
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A couple of nice new additions to the collection



even if they are Alt Lundy, not Wonderland
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I wasn't happy with these on the album page as there were. As they were stuck to the page by the stamps' own adhesive I felt there was no alternative but to soak them off and feel quite vindicated now. Half of them had been stuck down over others which actually made up the rest of the issue. There were 1d blues, and 2d blacks, plus more farthing, halfpenny and five farthing stamps.

Why any collector would stick stamps on top of others is quite beyond me!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Keith Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 October 2016 at 04:45
Here are some blocks of Mauritius Dodo stamps overprinted for use at the Wonderland Dead Letter Office.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 April 2017 at 08:16
Mr K isn't the only Cinderella stamp producer with Alice issues, by any means.

The Frodsham and Halton Post did a set in 1988. It marls the centenary of the stage play of the book. This is a cover and insert. Lying near Frodsham and Halton in Cheshire is the village of Daresbury where Charles Dodgson's father was the local vicar. The church has small museum attached which concentrates more on the author's hobby of photography than the alice books. The rectory where he grew up is no more, but the more avid fans can visit its plan marked out in a nearby field.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 August 2025 at 03:04
Amazing what I am capable of mislaying and rediscovering later. Not the right time of year perhaps, but I was posting this elsewhere and thought why not here.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2025 at 02:51
I have posted here before concerning the red stamp illustrated below, but now have two more from the series.
That red stamp has been in my collection for domkey's years. I had it it before I became aware of Gerald King's Wonderland stamps. On;y then could I place it somewhere. I did contact Gerry about it, but he had no recollections about it, though he did say that he experimented a bit in the earliest days of Wonderland stamp. However they must be his creations. These have denominations in Winks and Golden Slumbers, the currency that Gerry's Wonderland stamps changed to in 1865. Could two stamp producers have come up with the same obscure currency? The only other remote possibility is that someone else did produce these, some came by Gerry, and he subconsciously absorbed Winks and Golden Slumbers, and use them later.
On the whole I think these must be Gerald King's first Wonderland stamps.

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From the earlist to the latest.

ome of the imperforate mini-sheets produced for the final printing of the Wonderland Millenium edition; signed and dated.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 October 2025 at 07:15
I am partly using this post as a test of Flickr - will yet amother image hosting site fail - and partly becayse I just love them.



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