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Topic: "Britians Bombed Cities Relief Fund" Cinderella
Posted By: VforVictory
Subject: "Britians Bombed Cities Relief Fund" Cinderella
Date Posted: 12 June 2014 at 00:28
Hello,

This is my first post here, I am on a bit of a mission to find out about this Cinderella.

I recently purchased the block of 60 pictured below but can't find any info online.
The only trace of them is the odd one stuck on envelopes from the era.

Any info you guys can give would be very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Ben.





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Posted By: Admin
Date Posted: 12 June 2014 at 02:21
Welcome to the forum Ben

This is not my area of expertise but I hope someone here will be able to help you out...

The rows of perforating pins have an interesting flaw in them that looks familiar - could you count the number of holes per inch please Ben? If anyone here has any information about when and where these stamps were printed it would also be of interest to me!





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Posted By: VforVictory
Date Posted: 12 June 2014 at 02:47
Thanks for your welcome and response.

What do you mean by a flaw exactly? There are 16 holes per inch.

I originally thought they were from South Africa as the only trace I can find of them was individual ones stuck on letters from the region. But I spoke to an expert from SA who said he didn't think they were printed there, so I now have no idea.


Posted By: Colin
Date Posted: 12 June 2014 at 06:43
Thank you for joining!  Our 300th member, and very welcome here  ;-)

 
Originally posted by VforVictory VforVictory wrote:

What do you mean by a flaw exactly?


The pin bar has the occasional wonky pin - look at the ones 24th/25th from left (I am going cross-eyed trying to count but you'll see the ones I mean...) and this alignment is repeated vertically down the sheet. It resembles a pattern I have seen on other cinderella sheets so could be a clue to the stamp's country of origin.




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Posted By: HalfpennyYellow
Date Posted: 12 June 2014 at 10:19
Malta issued a similar cinderella in 1941. Here's the listing from Revenue Reverend: http://www.revrevd.com/malta.html

Originally posted by Revenue Reverend Revenue Reverend wrote:

1941.  Design featuring V (=Victory), inscribed 'Help the Malta Relief Fund'.  Perf 11.  No watermark.



  L31. ½d black, blue and red
 
Note: the issue of this label was advised in the Malta Government Gazette (no 8895) on 31st October 1941.  It was withdrawn from sale as of 13th October 1945 (advised in Gazette no 9364, 10th October 1945).

The inscriptions and designs of the GB and Malta labels are quite similar. The Malta one was issued by the Government (and I believe it was sold at Post Offices) and is quite common in mint condition (about £5 each). It's much harder to find genuinely used on cover.


Posted By: VforVictory
Date Posted: 12 June 2014 at 16:11
Thank you.

I see what you are talking about, I went cross eyed trying to count the number of holes per inch as well.

It would be very interesting to learn where it was made, any idea where I could start searching for similar flaws?


Posted By: VforVictory
Date Posted: 12 June 2014 at 16:19
Interesting considering 1941 is probably exactly when the "Britian's Bombed City Relief Fund" Cinderella was released as well. I imagine it was released during or just after the Battle of Britain.

I see a lot more of the Malta Cinderella on the internet tho, where as the Britain Cinderella is almost non existent.



Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: 12 June 2014 at 21:36
There is currently an item on the Deverell/MacGregor ("SPECIALIST PHILATELIC DEALERS IN THE RHODESIAS AND BRITISH AFRICA") http://www.rhodesia.co.za/" rel="nofollow - website  described as follows:

SA4427
1942 14th December, printed cover bearing 1d large War plus 1½d small Wars x three, in addition 1942 Christmas Seal and 'V BRITAIN'S BOMBED CITIES RELIEF FUND' label. Cancelled 'PLUMSTEAD' sc datestamp, sent registered to Sea Point.
£20



The "Britain's Bombed Cities Relief Fund V" sticker looks contemporaneous as, although it has no franking and could be a later addition to the envelope, it has the vertical blue line right through it in good linearity with the line on the envelope itself and those blue lines are typical of the period in my limited experience. Others will know more.

There was also an http://www.ebay.com/itm/1942-Capetown-South-Africa-Cancel-Censored-Air-Cover-w-Nice-Stamps-amp-Sticker-/320973615200?nma=true&si=LXAPDiuAKV1i9UvhodW90SE2KIA%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" rel="nofollow - ebay item sold by a US seller a little under a couple of years ago (so unfortunately no image on the historical listing record anymore) which was described as: "A nice March 3, 1942 postmark from Capetown, South Africa on a cover (with enclosed greetings card) that was censored in South Africa and sent to England. Nice franking and a "Britain's Bombed Cities Relief Fund" sticker on this interesting, historic item."

So, if the above listings are accurate, the latter moves the date of the sticker back by at least nine months from the Cape Town envelope from December 1942 to March 1942. Notably, both items originate from South Africa.


Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: 12 June 2014 at 21:43
Here is another envelope which seems to push the date reliably back into 1941 as the frank covers the V sticker. I think the frank is 16 September 1941. It again originates from South Africa.



I wonder how reliable the expert was to whom you spoke. There seems like a lot of circumstantial evidence to support the South Africa hypothesis.


Posted By: VforVictory
Date Posted: 12 June 2014 at 21:54
The expert was from the Rhodesia website of the first letter you posted. He thought they were probably brought to SA after being printed in Britain or somewhere else, although he was admittedly not sure.


Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: 12 June 2014 at 22:09
Originally posted by VforVictory VforVictory wrote:

The expert was from the Rhodesia website of the first letter you posted. He thought they were probably brought to SA after being printed in Britain or somewhere else, although he was admittedly not sure.
I've got to admit that does sound like a pretty good source of expertise! Smile


Posted By: VforVictory
Date Posted: 14 June 2014 at 18:45
I should add that I have the pictured block up for auction:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Britain-Relief-Fund-Cinderella-Stamp-Block-of-60-WW2-UK-British-Revenue-Seal-/281359529808?ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT%20" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Britain-Relief-Fund-Cinderella-Stamp-Block-of-60-WW2-UK-British-Revenue-Seal-/281359529808?ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
Worldwide postage is available. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Britain-Relief-Fund-Cinderella-Stamp-Block-of-60-WW2-UK-British-Revenue-Seal-/281359529808?ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT%20" rel="nofollow -


Posted By: Londonbus1
Date Posted: 15 June 2014 at 20:07
Given the crudeness of the printing, this was most likely made by some private individual or company. There were hundreds of such labels printed during and just after WWII.
A very nice item. Given that Cape Town is the starting point for both covers shown, if these are 'Made in Britain', then maybe they came over on a Naval ship ?
 
Nice to offer the item on eBay but may I suggest an edit for the description which could be very misleading. I have seen the item here and it has been discussed but someone going to the eBay listing will only see what they see on the screen. This is not a complaint, I just want the item to sell for what it's worth and these rarely come in such blocks [not that I have seen anyway].
If I had come across the listing as it is, I would not bid because of the description both in the 'item condition' [top] and 'item specifics' [below].
I would also be put off by the International postage charges and would ask for the item to be sent to an Aussie address for forwarding. Again, this is not a complaint, it is to give you more chances to sell the item at a realistic price.
 
Thanks for showing this block, as I have an interest in Patriotic and Propaganda material.
 
Londonbus1


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 15 June 2014 at 23:11
It looks like someone has already put in a  bid so it appears they do not share your concerns londonBus1   Wink


Also the seller states on the listing he will be away throughout the time of the sale so presumably would not be able to change the description while he is absent?




Posted By: Londonbus1
Date Posted: 15 June 2014 at 23:32
I hope there are more bidders as it's a nice item. That particular bid was placed just after I wrote here !! I would guess that he or she is in Oz......but one never knows !! Leaving aside the description as I had already seen the item here, I found the postage charge just too prohibitive for my meagre budget.
 
That's life. Cry


Posted By: Londonbus1
Date Posted: 22 June 2014 at 06:41
Not a good return for such a nice item........in my humble opinion. If the winner was in Oz, then it was disappointing I guess.
 
Still, thanks for showing it here. Nice to see.
 
Londonbus1



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