Merchants Trading Stamps
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Topic: Merchants Trading Stamps
Posted By: cind-revs
Subject: Merchants Trading Stamps
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 11:42
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Hi Are there any collectors of the trading stamps that merchants gave out years ago? To bring up memories, in the UK you had Green Shield, in the US we had S&H, in Germany it looks like many stores had their own stamps. About ten years ago I did a 720 page book covering about 4500 named plans and about 10,000 described stamps. I hope to get a revised edition done before I turn 90. First I have to get a revised edition of "Perforated or Punched Initials, Numbers and/or Designs in US Revenue Stamps and Fiscal Documents" out, then a book on US Trade Union Dues and Assessment Stamps, one on Adhesive QSL Bureau Stamps, a revision to one on US Railroad Baggage, Newspaper & Parcel Stamps are in the pipeline. I have several other projects that should keep me active until I get to 100, if I and my computer last that long.
Any one have a better name (in English) for Trading Stamps or should we use the German (Rabattmarken)?
Art
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Posted By: Steve
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 12:04
Hi Art
I have just a few in my modest collection. While specialising in some fantasy issues I am also building a small collection that is supposed to cover the spectrum of Cinderella philately with an emphasis on GB and 'ones that take my eye'. I only have later examples of Green Shield, Pink and Co-op stamps.
I've not come across the Rebattmarken term before, though the literal translation of Discount Stamps is familiar. The other term I have heard is Customer Loyalty Stamps.
There must be several large grouping of these items. You mention Green Shield, which were given out by many retailers and were redeemable for goods, but there are those for a specific retailer which I have seen but never experienced. I don't think any of these schemes still operate over here, though you can collect rubber stampings on a card at Cafe Nero for a free coffee, or cut tokens off various products to save for gimmick merchandise. I also remember Broke Bond tea did a brand called Dividend with a perfed stamp included within the wrapper. Again they were collected and could be redeemed. I was disappointed when my mother bought this brand as it meant no collectors card inside for me, but Brooke Bond PG Tips did have the card.
Some of the larger supermarket chains offer saving stamps. £1 in the machine, get a stamp, fill a card and redeem at the till. Do these count in your listings?
I am amazed that you have 10,000 stamps listed. You must be dedicated.
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Posted By: Bill Porter
Date Posted: 01 April 2010 at 04:59
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Hi Art,
Sounds like quite a task that you've set for yourself in the planned revision to your book. Atta boy!
While I don't specifically collect trading stamps per se, I do have a few in my accumulation. Two of these you may not be aware of. One of them, however, is temporarily mis-placed. But in the meantime, here's one that is handy...
As a kid, I helped my mother on many occasions to fill up the redemption books for both S&H Green Stamps and Blue Chip Stamps. Later, there was also the Gold Bond stamps. But I believe that my favorites were the Blue Chip Stamps. If for no other reason than the fact that they were produced in blue - a favorite color of mine.
The Value Stamps shown above, were a marketing tool that we used for our own purposes to reward customers on both our web site and, for a couple of years, through our retail store front. The examples shown above were from a production run in 2006. The last year that we produced the stamps and the redemption program was discontinued in mid-to-late 2007.
I probably should have kept better notes during that time when the program was operational, as I do not recall at the moment just how many sheets of these stamps were produced and distributed. But taking an educated guess, I would say that we produced about 500 or so sheets, each sheet bearing 50 stamps. All sheets were printed as shown, in black and purple on blue, 8.5" x 11" dry-gummed paper and pinhole perforated.
And as you might imagine, I have no clue as to how many of these Value Stamps may still be "in captivity" by those persons that received the stamps from our companies.
I do know, however, that I had two or four single stamps left that I saved for posterity sake, to go into some stamp albums I put together as gifts to my four grandsons. But that was the extent of known examples until late last year when a long-time customer mentioned that she still had some and wanted to know if we would still honor them, even though the redemption program had terminated years earlier. Graciously, we redeemed the stamps for her, making 35 stamps the total that I now have at hand. Although if I were to go back through the archives of accounting paperwork from that time period that are now stored in boxes, there probably are more to be found therein. (I don't believe that going on a search for them would justify the time, but I could be wrong.)
As for the other trading stamps that I referred to at the onset of this missive, I will look through the files and try, at least, to get a scan of them for posting here. These are known as SAVER STAMPS utilized the the American Bicycle Association and are still in use today. We (The Olathe Poste) have been the producer of ABA's saver stamps for about the past five years. And off-hand, they distribute several thousand sheets annually among their member race tracks, etc., across the United States.
I hope this is useful information for you, Art, and thanks for bringing up this topic. It brought back a few good, old memories.
------------- Bill
The Olathe Poste
P. O. Box 707
Olathe, CO 81425
USA
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 14 May 2010 at 18:03
Art, what's the name of your book? I would like to see a copy of it.
I'm trying to learn about some of the trading stamps I have. I'm actually posting them for sale in my Etsy shop ("StampClub") and I always think it's nice to give a little detail about them. I've posted four kinds so far, and the research is just taking forever.
I think probably a lot of the ones I have are from local shops, but there are some green stamps that look different from the other. They're S&H but it would be nice to know what era mine are from so I can call them "vintage" or "antique", give a little detail in the description.
I have put the ones I have in a set here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/randomleigh/sets/72157624063200982/
but this is the S&H I'm wondering about:

Any info is appreciated!!
Thanks,
Ande
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 14 May 2010 at 18:07
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*are* trading stamps considered Cinderella stamps? I would think the answer is yes but I wanted to make sure before tagging my listings and getting it wrong.
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Posted By: Colin
Date Posted: 15 May 2010 at 23:29
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Yes! Trading stamps are considered Cinderellas!
Thanks for posting, you are very welcome here. I am sure someone can help with your enquiries and I look forward to seeing the results here.
We have similar 'Co-operative' stamps in the UK - discount or trading stamps issued by a national department store chain.
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Posted By: Bill Porter
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 04:48
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Hi Ande,
For what it's worth, here's my two-cents-worth on the subject.
Unfortunately, yes I'm afraid that the majority of folks today will mis-categorize *anything* that is not a real postage stamp as a Cinderella. It has become far too easy - besides misunderstood - to just lump everything together in one, catch-all term.
Personally, I consider trading stamps a separate category of and by itself. Then the many, appropriate sub-categories for other types of trading stamps, such as what Colin refers to, can be differentiated properly. I am guessing that Art, in his book, probably addresses the many types and differences that this historic topical arena of stamp collecting worldwide represents. But as I've never seen his book nor heard more from him here about it, again, it's only a guess.
From the perspective of your offering these types of stamps on Ebay, I don't know either whether or not they offer a "trading stamp" category. So you may well have to use the category Cinderella to improve your odds to their best potential of viewers and possible buyers. But if you find yourself interested enough in the trading stamp topic to not sell-off everything currently in your possession, and start a collection of them of your own. Then you may want to investigate how Scotts, Gibbons, or any of the other collecting "Bibles" treat them and go from there. I would imagine too, that special interest reference books such as Art's, would also be an invaluable tool for anyone who takes up this area of collecting.
For what it's worth, Ande, I hope these comments are helpful to you in some way. And welcome to the forum, too.
------------- Bill
The Olathe Poste
P. O. Box 707
Olathe, CO 81425
USA
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Posted By: Colin
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 22:47
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Thanks Bill - and apologies for herding every type of non-postal stamp together into one area of collecting.
I have now started a separate forum heading for any other trading, discount, savings or merchants stamps and will move this thread into that later in the month.
I did not think eBay has a category for 'trading stamps' - I have certainly never searched for that so would advise Ande to put as many appropriate phrases as possible in his item descriptions and let his potential buyers decide what the stamp represents to them.
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Posted By: cind-revs
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 00:47
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Hi, On eBay any search for "trading stamps" or "@1 trading stamp*" will also pull up the kitchen boxes to hold books and loose stamps and postage stamp assortments for traders. But that is better than looking through all the listing under collectables.
Art
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 17:02
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It's a "merchant" stamps, although not a merchant "trading" stamp...but reading this thread brought it to my mind and this seems as good a place as any to drop it. I don't do it, and I'm not going to do it, but I have often thought about it and regretted not having saved/collected those little brand name stickers that they paste on virtually every piece of fresh fruit and some of the vegies these days. Fifty years ago, they were pretty much only on bananas. It would have been a fascinating collection.
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Posted By: Colin
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 23:14
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I can see it is going to be a huge problem trying to create separate categories for all of the different types of stamps - but if anyone would like to make some suggestions for some generic headings I am sure Admin will create some for us.
PS - She will kill me if she ever reads this* but it is true - My mum was named Juanita after her father saw it on a banana label (bananas considered very exotic back in the stone age) and decided that his next daughter would have a more interesting life with that name. To this day she is known instead as Marjorie, but just occasionally at family events she gets called by her kid nickname of 'Juanita Bananas'. She also had a brother named Beverley. Everyone calls him Jim.
* Fortunately, very unlikely
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 20 May 2010 at 21:36
Colin wrote:
She will kill me if she ever reads this but it is true - My mum was named Juanita after her father saw it on a banana label (bananas considered very exotic back in the stone age) and decided that his next daughter would have a more interesting life with that name. To this day she is known instead as Marjorie, but just occasionally at family events she gets called by her kid nickname of 'Juanita Bananas'. She also had a brother named Beverley. Everyone calls him Jim. |
Wow, that's a great story!!
I'm actually listing these on Etsy, not Ebay *shudder, Ebay*, as collage, scrapbook, or shrine fodder. I think I will have a better chance appealing to artists' sentimentality rather than some rogue merchant stamp collector. 
Much to my surprise I have already sold two (and I've only listed four, the research is nearly impossible) kinds of non-postage stampy stamps. One was a set of 20 Blue Willow stamps, the other was a set of two from the bread store.
Today I corralled my 70 year old mother in law and tried to pick her brain about these old stamps. She only remembered one, McCartney's (she was a green stamp ONLY collector). I was amazed that I found out anything about them at all, and I'm really proud of what I dragged up after over an hour of research: http://www.etsy.com/listing/47752828/mccartneys-grocery-store-of-tulsa
Does anyone know the name of Art's book, or Art's last name? I'd really like to get my hands on a copy of the book.
Thanks so very much for the information and replies. I'm so happy to have found a place that I can ask about these! I will look for those two guides that were also recommended.
I also have a pretty good stack of Easter Seals, faux Christmas stamps... "real" Cinderella stuff, not just the merchant type. In addition to a big drawer full of actual postage from all over the hell.
Ande
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 20 May 2010 at 22:34
OK. Now I have another question... I feel things already flying my way. Be gentle.
What is "scrip" in relation to these merchanty trading stampy things? They have a tiny cash value, after all.
Wikipedia (sorry, can't figure out how to unformat it) says that scrip is... any substitute for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency - currency
which is not http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_tender - legal tender and is often a form of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_%28finance%29 - credit ... Other forms of scrip include subway tokens, arcade tokens and
tickets, and "points" on some websites.
I came across this in some mention of S&H green stamps, which is why I humbly ask you guys who know more than I do.
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Posted By: tennislau
Date Posted: 08 July 2010 at 01:15
Art,
I started collecting trading stamps about 7 years ago and acquired a copy of your catalog about 4 years ago. I have maybe 2000 different small stamps (have not yet cataloged larger ones) of which about 100 are not in your catalog.
Do you know of any other collectors that want to trade or would sell their collections? Finally I would be glad to assist in your catalog update effort, especially with information about stamps that I have that are not yet cataloged.
Bill
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Posted By: peelap
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 07:16
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I have come across some trading stamps and can't identify them.they are red and have 'the peoples trading company Birmingham. Can anyone help me solve this mystery?
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Posted By: Colin
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 08:01
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Best way is to scan them and upload a picture, I am sure someone here will know what they are.
And Welcome to the forum Paula!
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Posted By: cind-revs
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 08:02
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Hi,
I have a Peoples's Trading Company but it is not from Birmingham. I has an arm and hammer in a circle in the center. Can you post a description of the stamp?
Art
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Posted By: peelap
Date Posted: 13 May 2011 at 08:11
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Thanks for the welcome and the advice. They are in pretty bad condition as they fell out of a grandmother clock in the museum stores when we were moving it! Will scan them next week when back in work
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Posted By: peelap
Date Posted: 19 May 2011 at 07:53
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150178272611741&set=a.10150178272566741.304574.733056740&type=1&ref=nf
I hope this has worked!! I have uploaded the images onto my facebook page and lifted the security on the images so all can see. They are in pretty bad condition, but they are still discernable.
There has been no joy on internet searches for the company, and you guys are one of my last hopes for identifying these stamps.
Will check back to see if there are any viewing issues.
Thanks in advance
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Posted By: Colin
Date Posted: 19 May 2011 at 12:16
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For members who don't have a Facebook account here is the picture posted by peelap:
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Posted By: Steve
Date Posted: 19 May 2011 at 12:30
The first thing to do is to confirm this is Birmingham UK, and not Birmingham Alabama. (Something Birmingham (UK) Council couldn't manage last year when they used a picture of the American city of some official pamphlets).
The style certainly looks quite old. I would hazard a guess that they were locally produced for a group of local shops somewhwere in the city. Shame my grandparents are not around as they were Brummies and could have possibly recognised them.
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Posted By: tennislau
Date Posted: 19 May 2011 at 22:51
This is an early trading stamp from "peoples trading co. I have a similar stamp in my collection and guess that is an early 1900's stamp. I have no other information since there are certainly over 10,000 different trading stamps.
Bill Lau
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 14 July 2011 at 09:01
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Did the people's Trading Company only have a store in Birmingham or were they national?
How long were they in business for?
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Posted By: peelap
Date Posted: 14 July 2011 at 21:12
Thanks for the info, Bill.
I have tried to get some info on the company, but with no luck so far, Bearstone. so i am assuming they were solely trading in the Birmingham area. The clock in which they were found was donated from the West Midlands area so am basing my assumptions on that. Also, if they were a larger company I would expect to have found some mention of them somewhere. All a bit of a mystery to be honest! Paula
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Posted By: Steve
Date Posted: 20 October 2011 at 08:44
A thought came to me today. I remember that when colecting trading stamps (Co-op or Green Shield) were the norm in the UK they always had a redemption value of 0.0001d printed on them. Some cigarettes also had points vouchers that good be redeemed for goods, and these also had that or similar printed on them. Was there some sort of legal or tax reason for this? Did this occur on other country's trading stamps?
I cannot see that on the example above.
Edit: Just looked and see that redemption value was 0.075d or 0.03p after 1971 decimalisation
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Posted By: Bas S Warwick
Date Posted: 14 January 2012 at 19:43
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I found these '1 Bonus Point' trading stamps recently in a bulk lot.
They also have 'ABE 190' over stamp.
Not sure what they are - any ideas?
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Posted By: Steve
Date Posted: 14 January 2012 at 21:31
Without professing any real knowledge of trading stamps I would say they are British from the cash redemption value. The ABE 190 is probably just the serial number of the book they are from.
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Posted By: Bas S Warwick
Date Posted: 14 January 2012 at 21:35
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Hi Steve
I was living in the UK until 1994 but only remember 'Green Shield' stamps..........the ones pictured above were found in a New Zealand bulk lot so wondering if they may be from Australia/NZ ???
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Posted By: Steve
Date Posted: 14 January 2012 at 21:40
I have a few items, all British. The Green Shield, Co-op and Pink stamps all had that same 0.035p redemption value. Its the 'p' though that is the biggest pointer to UK origin.
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Posted By: cind-revs
Date Posted: 15 January 2012 at 03:34
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Hi,
The probability, since it came from a NZ bulk lot, is that it was used in New Zealand by a food market (store) as a promotion. Without a copy of the collecting sheet, booklet or the store's ad I can not guess if it was for cookware or something else.
I will include it in the revised Trading Stamp catalogue under Designs (market basket), Plan (unknown) and Country (New Zealand).
I still hope to get the updated catalogue done before I turn 90.
Art
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