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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 September 2024 at 04:28
Moving on to the monochrome Death of Stamps. These were not available as a sheet and only appeared in the packets.
There sems to be four different stamps based upon the degree of illumination of the skull, which for the moment I am calling 100%, 75%, 50% and 25%. I have reversed skull variants of the 50 and 25, and have no reason to not suppose that the same applies to the 100 and 75.

I have examples of the 100% from bottom left corner and 25% from the top right. The marginal 25% ruins my first guess that these were printed in rows from 25% at the top to 100% at the bottom. Perhaps they were just randomly placed on the sheets.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 September 2024 at 04:44
Have you noticed the missing teeth on the green and gold Dead Letter inverted skull?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote elmstead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 September 2024 at 08:20
I agree with you that the Green Death Of Stamps 25% image does have a reflected image

But I don't think the 50% image has a reflected image. 
The stamp you refer to is more like 33% light
The middle and the right hand side look the same in this and the 50% image.
I think the difference is that the left hand side of the skull is more in shadow.

so I think there is 6 different stamps 100%, 75%, 50%, "33%" and 25% (and the reflected 25% image)

The top row and the bottom row of the sheet are probably the same 
(100%, 75%,50% and 25% going left to right)
I'm not sure about the middle row
I think it ends with the "33%" and "reflected25%" stamps.
and probably begins with simply the 100% and 75% stamps - unless anybody else has found more variants ??



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 September 2024 at 11:57
Originally posted by elmstead elmstead wrote:

Did I forget to mention there are four more variants of the Death duty stamp ?

All are overprints

but they are not on the sheet they are (you guessed it) in the mixed bags of Halloween stamps
They are beautiful but.... (you've guessed it again) I won't share pictures of them yet, to give some of you the chance of discovering them for yourselves.


I may have found the four you refer to. One could argue for more.
However I would call them fake overprints. The OVERDUE is part of the design and was printed with the rest of the stamp. There is no rubber stamping involved. If you have two of the same variant the OVERDUE is postitioned exactly in the same place. A rubber stamp would have at least a tad of human error involved.
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I think the death of stamps sheet looks something like this
The six stamps with selvage give a clue as to the possible patterns in row1 and row3
(suggesting 100% to 25% across each row)
The reflected 25% is at row2 col4 and I'm fairly sure the "33%" stamp is at row2col3


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote elmstead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 September 2024 at 12:31
I'm sorry if I gave the impression that Colin has been hand stamping OVERDUE on each of the Death Duty stamps.

I don't know if you are familiar with his Assassins’ Guild Three Pence Contract Renewal stamp that he and Alan Batley produced for the Discworld Emporium?
It's described as an Overprint in the Discworld Stamp Catalogue as it gives the impression that the stamp has "subject to Contract Renewal" stamped on the Assassins Guild 3p stamp in Bleach (or a bleaching agent).
but it is of course a printed sheet that gives the illusion of an overstamp.

The Death Duty sheet that was available from FarFetchedPhilately's Etsy Shop had an OVERDUE faintly overprinted on one of the stamps. It was in the same position, and faintly printed in an identical way on every sheet, so it was part of the design.

I did say in my earlier post " it gives the appearance that someone has used a rubber stamp to print the word OVERDUE over the Death Duty stamp itself. And it's hard to make out as if the rubber-stamp hasn't been inked properly. Don't you love it ? 
Art imitating Life."

The second sheet of 12 Death Duty stamps that is being used to make up the mixed bags consists (I believe) of three repeating rows each made upon four different "apparent" overprints (some in red ink some in black, some easier to read some less so).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 September 2024 at 00:02
I am well aware of the assassin's Guild stamp. DW has used overprints on a large number of occasions, all look as if the were pinted with the stamp but made to look as addition. Other full sheet examples include the Shades halfpenny surcharge and the Bugarup University. Both these have the 'overprint' variously rotated and under-inked in places.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 September 2024 at 02:48
I think your assessment of the sheet is most likely correct, and I can add to it for a completion. With the selvedge we have it seems likely that these were also printed in a 4x3 sheet.


Unless of course there is someone who knows better ... nudge nudge Colin


Note that these variations also appeared in the original larger format 2013 Death of Stamps. Here's 2 of them but the others may have appeared in 2013. I have no idea why the scanner is making these appear so green!!!


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Returning to the Death Duty overprints, most of the variants were from the first printing of 2020. These were the duller coloured (by comparison) ones. Repeating the earlier image, this one has the crucual selvedge dates.

For me, however, the easiest way to distinguish between the two printings is to look at the reverse. Two different papers were used and the 2020 first printing has a slightly cream colour compared with the whiter 2023 printing. I have tried a scan of these, but the difference just doesn't show up.

Here are the 6 variants of the overprint

The top one is the 2020 sheet variant - faded red -45 degrees
Then three non-sheet 2020 variants
Faded blue +5 degrees
Bold deep purple +5
Faded blue -5
And the 2023 sheet variant - bold red +5

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A photo of the reverse of the earlier and later sheets next to each other shows the extent of the difference, if not the actual colours

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