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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 September 2024 at 04:37
Thanks for this Elmstead

You are not talking to yourself, but its a lot to take in and digest. I am actually struggling to find a way of logging the variants so that I neither miss any or count one twice.

I have 5 of the red frame DLO variants as single stamps, and I think they are as you have found.
Need to go through sheet and singles again.

As for the Green and olive DLO I have four variants listed.
Yes there is slight colour change made in 2022; very slight, due a reprint. So I need to see which if any of the 4 variants belong to the reprint.
Death Duty also got a 2022 reprint resulting in a slight colour change. With this I am wondering how far one goes in counting differences in the overprint variant. Were these overprints applied after printing.

Then its a case of once again studying the sheets and stamps of all the others.


On a totally different issue, have you noticed anything about the Hand of Fate stamps? You need selvedge to spot it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote elmstead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 September 2024 at 07:56

Thanks Steve, I was really impressed with your articles in the esteemed Cinderella philatelist .....you listed


H20 Dead letter office Tan and olive green

H20v1 Mirrored Skull

Which is the variation on the sheet on sale at FarFetchedPhilately


but I'm uncertain what you mean by H20v2 Brown skull variation 

is this a colour variation /could you share a picture?


Of course the other two variants you list must appear on a second (unavailable) sheet (H20s2 ?)

H20v3 Inverted skull variation

And a tete beche pair (H20it) of an Inverted stamp and H20v1

So presumably the inverted stamp would be H20v4 ?


However there is another variant (not a colour variation) that was in the latest Mixed Bag of Halloween stamps

and there is possibly more...??

I wondered if anyone else had found any


Also do any of these variants have selvage attached which would identify where they appear on this second sheet ?


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For example this variant must be row1col1 on the second sheet


and this one must be row3col2


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 September 2024 at 10:16
Glad you appreciated the article. Of course an update is now necessary, but that will be a while yet.

Anyway here's brown skull variation se-tenant and Tete-beche with the mirror skull variation for comparison. Is this the same as the pairing you mention? I do have a single stamp of the brown skull (no selvedge)
Also a mirror skull from a not for sale sheet showing position.




Brown skull is a bit misleading as its the background.

All this tells us that there was a variants only sheet. Whether this only had DLO or whether it was larger than the sale sheets and included the non-sheet variants of the other stamps is an unknown. If the non sheet variant's selvedges match the for sale sheets then I would go for 1 (or two) mixed variants sheets.

The majority of my non sheet variants lack a selvedge. I doubt I would have removed these myself, as I generally fold them under the stamp. But I might have in a moment of forgrtfulness. Anyway this is what I do have
Death Duty overprints 2022
C1r2 C2r3 c3r3
Purple halloween
c2 r1
DLO
C1 r2
Return to sender
C1 r2

C1r2 occurs three times suggesting 3 non sheet variant mixed sheets

All the above have the same colour selvedge text and little logo (while other stamps may have a colour matching the stamp). Hence same template used for all mixed sheets perhaps?

The more you look the murkier it seems. When will the waters clear?
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is this the only upside down stamp you have ? 
what about the one where the frame is the right way up but the skull is upside down ? ?

I didn't want to say until I'd seen other peoples examples ...
but both of my stamps and yours are not only upside down but the shadow is on the left hand side of the skull 

so they are inverted images of variant1 not inverted images of the "common" stamp.
Do inverted images of the common stamp exist I wonder?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 September 2024 at 11:00
As I said... murkier

Are we the only two on the forum who bought packets? Contributions from others would be most 👏
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And that was my only mixed pair
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The only example I have of the "brown skull" is this one....
as you can see its another variant to the ones listed in Steve's article 
it was in the latest mixed bags - perhaps these "brown" versions come from a prototype sheet ?

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and this is what I meant by "colour variation" rather than a planned "variant"
The difference is easier to spot with the real stamps  - but I hope you can see that the colours of the "frame" are much brighter and the skull is more distinct (in the one on the right !)

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The duller one is the original 2020 printing, while the brighter on is a 2022 reprint.
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