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Topic: Miscellaneous Gerald King Issues
Posted By: Keith
Subject: Miscellaneous Gerald King Issues
Date Posted: 06 June 2014 at 03:54
In amongst my collection of Gerald King issues there are a fair number of single sets unrelated to anything else - clearly the product of Gerald's fertile imagination when something has caught his attention fleetingly.

So I've added a Miscellaneous page to the askme website and added the first two.  http://www.askmeaboutstamps.com/?page_id=4032" rel="nofollow - Naked ladies and hats .  I'll add others from time to time.

Keith


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Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 29 August 2014 at 05:05
I know lots of you like Revenue stamps.  So, for a treat, I have added two such issues to the Gerald King miscellaneous page.

They were both produced in 2000 for The Revenue Society.  The Canada stamp was commissioned as an "essay" and given to guests at the Philatelic Congress Banquet.  I don't suppose anyone has a copy of that which they are willing to pass on to me in gratitude for me adding the issues to askme?

http://www.askmeaboutstamps.com/?page_id=4032" rel="nofollow - Click here and scroll down the page past the naked ladies and the hats.

Keith


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Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 06 March 2015 at 04:00
I've recently discovered that Gerry produced a Bahrain Camel Post stamp in the mid-1980's.  I've none of the stamps yet but do own the aluminium printing plates used in the litho printing process.

I do also now have my hands on a redesign of the stamp .  The original plates and revised issue can be http://www.askmeaboutstamps.com/?page_id=4282" rel="nofollow - seen here on the Askme website .

Keith


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Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 11 May 2015 at 22:28
I've discovered that I do have two blocks of the original Bahrain stamps!!  Discovered in a house move and perhaps making up for the things I can't find yet.

So I've updated the askme website to include these.  http://www.askmeaboutstamps.com/?page_id=4282" rel="nofollow - Here are the little beauties!

Keith


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 11 May 2015 at 22:32
Originally posted by Keith Keith wrote:

I've recently discovered that Gerry produced a Bahrain Camel Post stamp in the mid-1980's.  I've none of the stamps yet but do own the aluminium printing plates used in the litho printing process.



Did you also discover a printing press while moving house Keith????   LOL


Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 11 May 2015 at 22:43
Originally posted by parrot parrot wrote:

Did you also discover a printing press while moving house Keith????   LOL


If only..!!  I've loads of Gerry King aluminium plates and could swamp the market with Wonderland stamps in new colours and make a killing.  Co-incidentally my new home was converted from a printers in 1980 but they didn't leave any machines behind. Cry

Keith


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Posted By: Daniel
Date Posted: 05 September 2015 at 12:49
I recently purchased a couple of blocks of the original Bahrain Camel Post stamps. I was fortunate insofar as they were not identified as being by Gerald King but I was able to recognise them from Keith's images. There used to be a pecking order for Gerald's stamps in this order; Wonderland, Lundy, Sark and Everything else with this later category being more readily affordable. These days almost anything by him commands a good price. Anyway, here are the stamps:




Posted By: JesperDK
Date Posted: 06 September 2015 at 08:36
Very nice pictures Daniel... Yes, they are very rare and difficult to find....

I have some Bahrain Camel Post stamps... including some Specimen stamps... but I haven't scanned any of the stamps yet (When I have I will post the pictures)...




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Posted By: JesperDK
Date Posted: 06 September 2015 at 08:57
Hi Keith,

I see that you have posted the Ile Chapeau stamps from Gerald King ... Great stamps ... 

I have the signed proofs that goes along with the stamps (if you want you are welcome to add them to the " http://www.askmeaboutstamps.com/?page_id=4032" rel="nofollow - Naked ladies and hats "-page):

Ile Chapeau - Signed Proofs (1 of 2)

Ile Chapeau - Signed Proofs (2 of 2)

Do you know the story behind the stamps?

As far as I understand "Ile Chapeau" (Hat Island) is an independent island on River Seine where Ladies must wear the latest fashion in hats dated around 1900-1920

BR
Jesper



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Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 07 September 2015 at 08:15
Originally posted by Daniel Daniel wrote:

I was able to recognise them from Keith's images.
At last!  After all these years!  Someone actually looking at the askme website.  It makes the hours whittling those web pages all worthwhile Smile

Keith


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Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 07 September 2015 at 08:22
Originally posted by JesperDK JesperDK wrote:

Hi Keith,
I have the signed proofs that goes along with the stamps (if you want you are welcome to add them to the " http://www.askmeaboutstamps.com/?page_id=4032" rel="nofollow - Naked ladies and hats "-page):
  Lucky devil.  I usually only use images of items I own but I might make an exception in this case.  Of course you could always just give them to me!

Originally posted by JesperDK JesperDK wrote:

Do you know the story behind the stamps?

As far as I understand "Ile Chapeau" (Hat Island) is an independent island on River Seine where Ladies must wear the latest fashion in hats dated around 1900-1920
   I don't think I knew the story - although it would take weeks of ploughing through Gerald's e-mails to check.  I'll use the information to update the website.  Thanks.

Keith


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Posted By: Bas S Warwick
Date Posted: 10 September 2015 at 22:01
Bahrain Camel - does the inverted one command a higher price?


Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 15 September 2015 at 04:17
Originally posted by Bas S Warwick Bas S Warwick wrote:

Bahrain Camel - does the inverted one command a higher price?
All Gerald King stamps are worth more than any of the others.  The rarest are usually the ones without any errors at all Confused

Keith


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Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 27 October 2015 at 04:57
After a wait of only about 33 years there is a new Wonderland Christmas card.  I've added details of it, and its predecessor, to the Askme website and they can be found on http://www.askmeaboutstamps.com/?page_id=4444" rel="nofollow - the end of this link.

As the envelopes include Wonderland stamps and the envelope and card are both signed by Gerry they seem more like collectors' items than something you'd actually put in the post to some ingrate.  They have appeared on eBay; I'm not sure how many there will be (the eBay listing says there are only 3 sets left at the moment) so get in early if you are interested.

Keith


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Posted By: Londonbus1
Date Posted: 14 November 2015 at 06:42

Here's one.



Posted By: JesperDK
Date Posted: 19 December 2015 at 22:44
Gerald King - Experimental Designs, Unadopted - Joined strips of 4 and Individual stamps" of the ´White Rabbit, Mad Hatter, Child Welfare´:

Experimental Design

Does anyone know some more information about these (story, what year they are from, etc.)?



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Posted By: JesperDK
Date Posted: 19 December 2015 at 23:46
GB 1929 Postal Union Congress
Submitted but unadopted designs. Designer details on the back.

Front:
Postal Union Congress (Front)

Back:
Postal Union Congress (Back)



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Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 21 December 2015 at 05:15
Originally posted by JesperDK JesperDK wrote:

Does anyone know some more information about these (story, what year they are from, etc.)?


Mine came with a letter from Gerry that might help.  But I've been made to tidy everything away for Christmas.  I'll see if I can find it when I'm allowed to mess the house up again in the new year!

Keith


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Posted By: JesperDK
Date Posted: 31 January 2016 at 05:00
Hi, 

I bought these two stamps on eBay last week... They were posted as "Gerald King Local Posts" ... 

I haven´t seen them before ... but maybe some of you know them and can confirm that they are Gerald Kings work (and maybe even tell some more about them)?

Gerald King - King´s Local Post - Bramfield Suffolk England:
Gerald King - King´s Local Post - Bramfield Suffolk England

BR
Jesper




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Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 01 February 2016 at 03:10
Originally posted by JesperDK JesperDK wrote:

but maybe some of you know them and can confirm that they are Gerald Kings work (and maybe even tell some more about them)?

Jesper


Hi Jesper.  They are certainly Gerald King issues.  I'm not sure I've seen them mint before.  They are used by Gerald on the reverse (usually) of his letters so not sold by him as cinderellas so far as I know.

I've had a look in my boxes and the only one I can spot quickly is the King of hearts tied to the back of a cover with an Ipswich postmark in 2014.  I have the feeling that I will have recycled any covers with only one of these on the back (I know - sacrilege!) so I'm not sure if there are clubs and spades as well.  Maybe others will be able to help.

Here's a link to the image I posted on the Askme facebook page at the time
http://www.facebook.com/Askmeaboutstamps/photos/pcb.1448908672036726/1448905365370390/?type=3" rel="nofollow -
https://www.facebook.com/Askmeaboutstamps/photos/pcb.1448908672036726/1448905365370390/?type=3

Keith


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Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 14 February 2016 at 02:01
Originally posted by Keith Keith wrote:

I'm not sure if there are clubs and spades as well.  Maybe others will be able to help.


I was rooting through my Gerald King heap today and came across an envelope to me with a King of Clubs on a "King's Local Post" label on the front.  Its value is one copper groat.  So I assume there is a spade label too in order to make a full set.

Keith


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Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 14 February 2016 at 03:26
I'm having a rest from Wonderland, Snark & Lundy and getting up to date with the more obscure issues of Gerry King.

So I've added his reproduction of WWI labels from the magazine The Happy Home to the Miscellaneous pages on askme http://www.askmeaboutstamps.com/?page_id=4458." rel="nofollow - and you can find them just here.   Only 6 sheets exist.  Happy hunting!

I've also added two covers to the Alternative Burma page and these can be  http://www.askmeaboutstamps.com/?page_id=3874" rel="nofollow - seen at the bottom of this page.

Keith


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Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 15 February 2016 at 05:15
A few Gerry King Alternative Australia sets have started to appear on eBay.  As they are very rare I thought I'd add details of them to the askmeaboutstamps website and http://www.askmeaboutstamps.com/?page_id=4472" rel="nofollow - you can see them here.   If you like swans and kangaroos you'll be well pleased.

Keith


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Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 23 February 2016 at 04:09
Here you are Jesper - all four of the labels in a se tenant strip.

http://s263.photobucket.com/user/TheBywoods/media/Cinderellas/Gerald%20King/Kingslocal_zpsjh7cwk8c.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">


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Posted By: JesperDK
Date Posted: 23 February 2016 at 06:36
Hi Keith,
Very nice se tenant strip... so they actually do exist all 4 of the labels... I haven't seen them all before....

... I must find them for my own collection... one day soon :-)

BR
Jesper



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Posted By: Murgatroyd
Date Posted: 23 February 2016 at 11:31
I like the fact that the King of hearts is the high value card. 

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Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 29 March 2016 at 04:26
I've added a new page to the askme website to cover Gerry's Alternative GB issues.  I was going to call it GB stamps from unadopted essays (snappy title) but, when I was scanning them I realised that not all meet that description.

I don't know too much about the original frames/essays so, if you have any knowledge about the background to any of the issues that will help me to flesh out the website I'd be pleased to hear it.

http://www.askmeaboutstamps.com/?page_id=4524" rel="nofollow - Here is a link to the page.

Keith


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Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 29 March 2016 at 04:37
Originally posted by JesperDK JesperDK wrote:

GB 1929 Postal Union Congress
Submitted but unadopted designs. Designer details on the back.


I've only just spotted your post Jesper.  I've checked and the low value set has the designer information added too!  Excellent.  I must look at the back of Gerry's stamps more often Confused

Keith


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Posted By: Londonbus1
Date Posted: 01 April 2016 at 21:07

Issue for the 10th Anniversary of the Revenue Society, formerly The Revenue Society of Great Britain.

[The shading on the borders is from the scanning !]



Posted By: JesperDK
Date Posted: 02 April 2016 at 21:43
Hi Keith,

Great page about the "Gerald King - Alternative GB issues" ... so many interesting items ...

The page will definitely be very helpful...

Jesper


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Posted By: Londonbus1
Date Posted: 02 April 2016 at 21:58

Canada ! LOL

Philatelic Congress of Great Britain, 2000.




Posted By: JesperDK
Date Posted: 27 May 2016 at 08:01
Hi all,

My collection of Gerald King Wonderland stamps is currently a big mix of hundreds of stamps from different printings (different ages) etc. 

I am trying get the stamps sorted.. in regards to age/printing... 

It isn't as easy as it sounds and I am hoping that someone from this Forum can help me getting started by posting some pictures of the following:

1) One or more of the stamps from the original first printing of the Wonderland series...
2) One or more of the stamps from the second printing of the Wonderland series...
3) One or more of the stamps from the third printing of the Wonderland series...
4) One or more of the stamps from the fourth printing of the Wonderland series...
5) Examples of later printings... or other things that could be helpful

Thanks in advance...

/Jesper



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Posted By: Steve
Date Posted: 01 June 2016 at 06:40
I am in same position as you Jesper

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Posted By: JesperDK
Date Posted: 22 December 2016 at 11:27
Hi all,

Does anyone know what exact year (about 20 years ago) these "Gerald King - Newfoundland Airship Company" stamps were produced? ... and does have more information about them? ... I believe only 2 sets have been produced?



Thanks in advance...



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Posted By: Admin
Date Posted: 28 December 2016 at 05:00
What a brilliant little set of stamps!  Lucky you. 




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Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 28 December 2016 at 21:38
Originally posted by JesperDK JesperDK wrote:

Hi all,

Does anyone know what exact year (about 20 years ago) these "Gerald King - Newfoundland Airship Company" stamps were produced? ... and does have more information about them? ... I believe only 2 sets have been produced?



I don't know the exact answer but Gerald thinks it was 5 or 6 years ago. Mind you, knowing how time flies for us old folk it could just as well have been 20! 😜 . No more than 6 strips exist. Assuming Gerry and Jesper and I all have one who has the others? Come on, admit it.

Keith

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Posted By: Steve
Date Posted: 29 December 2016 at 03:51
Perhaps Gerry has 2 sets. Wasn't there kerfuffle when one set was posted on eBay and he withdrew them?

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Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 05 January 2017 at 02:24
Inspired by Jesper's recent post, I've added the Newfoundland Airship Company to the Newfoundland page on Askme.

I can't spot where I've ever posted about the original Nefoundland Air essays that Gerry produced in 2003 and which caused a great stir at the time.  So you may all enjoy the whole page at the other end of this link.  http://www.askmeaboutstamps.com/?page_id=4147" rel="nofollow - http://www.askmeaboutstamps.com/?page_id=4147

Keith


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Posted By: Daniel
Date Posted: 16 January 2017 at 11:23
Originally posted by JesperDK JesperDK wrote:

Hi all,

Does anyone know what exact year (about 20 years ago) these "Gerald King - Newfoundland Airship Company" stamps were produced? ... and does have more information about them? ... I believe only 2 sets have been produced?



Thanks in advance...


This is very curious. The Newfoundland Airship Company stamps were produced in Cambridge, Massachusetts from 2004, I believe, by someone working at Harvard and with links to Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. I have a few of the stamps, an essay, a cover and a boarding pass all lovingly created and I also have the top stamp of this set that you have featured. Most of the stamps have frames taken from the stamps of Newfoundland and feature airships and whaling vessels. On the reverse, they have the word Cinderella printed multiple times (early issues were stamped with the word 'faux' on the back). They were sold on eBay on an auction basis and I do not know in what quantity they were produced. Therefore, I do not believe that Gerald designed this set but were probably, as with his other Newfoundland set, copies. I haven't posted much recently but I'll try to show what I have in a separate thread.


Posted By: Colin
Date Posted: 16 January 2017 at 22:36
I love a mystery!  

Perhaps Keith could also ask Gerry what the true background to these stamps might be?




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Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 17 January 2017 at 02:44
I shall ask nicely and report back.  They could be fake cinderellas - Gerald would like that.  Images from a Google search suggest to me that the top stamp might be the original as described by Daniel and the other three are Gerald versions.  I'll let you know.

Keith


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Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 20 January 2017 at 02:13
Gerry confirms my speculation that, having acquired the original Newfoundland Airship Company stamp, he "worked in the others" to produce the strip of 4.  He was amazed the discover that the original stamp was issued in 2004 so all we now know is that the Gerry King versions were produced some time between 2004 and 2012 (ish).  Can anyone throw any more light on the date?

Keith


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Posted By: Daniel
Date Posted: 12 December 2017 at 14:03
Originally posted by Daniel Daniel wrote:

I recently purchased a couple of blocks of the original Bahrain Camel Post stamps. I was fortunate insofar as they were not identified as being by Gerald King but I was able to recognise them from Keith's images. There used to be a pecking order for Gerald's stamps in this order; Wonderland, Lundy, Sark and Everything else with this later category being more readily affordable. These days almost anything by him commands a good price. Anyway, here are the stamps:



I've managed to purchase a couple of philatelic items, a postcard and an envelope (back and front shown), depicting these stamps presumably as sent in Bahrain by the person who commissioned them:

https://flic.kr/p/HqXifP" rel="nofollow"> https://flic.kr/p/HqXifP" rel="nofollow - G King Bahrain camel postcard by https://www.flickr.com/photos/101603119@N05/" rel="nofollow - Spicer57 , on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/212nBFT" rel="nofollow"> https://flic.kr/p/212nBFT" rel="nofollow - Gerald King Camel Post used Bahrain by https://www.flickr.com/photos/101603119@N05/" rel="nofollow - Spicer57 , on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/CJ8XP8" rel="nofollow"> https://flic.kr/p/CJ8XP8" rel="nofollow - G King Camel Post back by https://www.flickr.com/photos/101603119@N05/" rel="nofollow - Spicer57 , on Flickr

The envelope is addressed to a well-known Cinderella collector (blanked out to protect his privacy).


Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 13 December 2017 at 03:48
I envy you the card and the envelope Daniel  Well spotted too and I'm glad the website helped; I suspect there are not many of us who would have realised that these were Gerry King items - they must be as rare as hens' teeth.


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Posted By: Daniel
Date Posted: 14 October 2018 at 10:39
I came across a nice lot of Gerald's Bahrain Camel Post stamps, mainly the one with the green border, and including multiple imperforate blocks and singles. These imperforate versions all appear to be errors with the centre only inverted. In addition there are proofs of the centre camel design, again, both perforated and imperforate. An example of this is shown on the reverse of the envelope shown above.

Here are some scans:

https://flic.kr/p/2c3WcEc" rel="nofollow"> https://flic.kr/p/2c3WcEc" rel="nofollow - Bahrain Camels New by https://www.flickr.com/photos/101603119@N05/" rel="nofollow - Spicer57 , on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/2bYG2iJ" rel="nofollow"> https://flic.kr/p/2bYG2iJ" rel="nofollow - Bahrain Camels Imperforate by https://www.flickr.com/photos/101603119@N05/" rel="nofollow - Spicer57 , on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/29hBYhW" rel="nofollow"> https://flic.kr/p/29hBYhW" rel="nofollow - Bahrain Camels Centres by https://www.flickr.com/photos/101603119@N05/" rel="nofollow - Spicer57 , on Flickr



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