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Printed Date: 17 November 2017 at 11:17


Topic: Space Cinderellas
Posted By: Steve
Subject: Space Cinderellas
Date Posted: 10 December 2012 at 11:10
I recently managed to get my mitts on some of the Dan Dare stamps which date back to 1953 (time enough to prepare a 60th anniversary special issue?). They were free with Lifebuoy soap and collectors could claim a free album.

Not a full set by any means so I will be on the lookout for missing ones.
This is the album

At the time of writing there is a used copy of this on Amazon for £120. I don't think I can run to that!

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Posted By: Steve
Date Posted: 10 December 2012 at 11:40
I had posted up some images of similar items, but surprisingly it was on the previous version of this Forum. So here they are again.

This sheet is a version of some of the original Dan Dare stamps

These 'Interplanetary Essays are more common, and were produced in the USA in 1958 from the original plates seemingly, by H.E.McDonald of the Tatham Stamp Company.

These Interplanetary Essays seem fairly common

and lack something in design and concept.
I am not sure whether there were more than this one sheet. 4 sets are mentioned, but this sheet is the only one ever showm.

And another bit of fun stuff that would have been a free gift when requesting approvals. Dates from the early part of the 1960s


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Posted By: Murgatroyd
Date Posted: 11 December 2012 at 00:12
I recall my model rocketry years when, on occasions, we would prepare "Mail carrier" rockets and fire them up with a cargo of appropriately stamped mail. Assuming the parachute deployed correctly, and the rocket wound up in a position that it was safe to recover it from, and that there had been no burn through from the rocket motor.  We would then recover the "Rocket Mail" and post it on to the recipients.

The Dan Dare stamps are lovely. I must look out for some.


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Posted By: Steve
Date Posted: 17 December 2012 at 11:39
I don't suppose you still have any of those covers do you?

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Posted By: Murgatroyd
Date Posted: 17 December 2012 at 22:48
I'm very sorry, they were all sent to those who requested them... and it was years ago. I could build another mail carrying rocket easily enough however! It would have to be a simple one though... No kite this time.

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Posted By: Steve
Date Posted: 17 December 2012 at 23:33
How accurate could these rockets be and over what distance?

I am thinking of the possibility of a postal service to some island or remote part. Knock up some stamps etc

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Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 17 December 2012 at 23:54
Originally posted by Steve Steve wrote:

How accurate could these rockets be and over what distance?

I am thinking of the possibility of a postal service to some island or remote part. Knock up some stamps etc
 
Careful.  I think that excuse has been used by the North Koreans and it doesn't seem to be believed - particularly in Japan.
 
Keith


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Posted By: Murgatroyd
Date Posted: 18 December 2012 at 00:08
If you're talking about hitting an island a few hundred yards away it's not going to be easy. Firing one across the Welsh or Scottish border would be a lot easier. The further it has to go, the larger and more expensive the rocket motors will have to be, and the less likely the rocket is to land near the target. 
Unguided Rockets are easy enough to point in the right direction and fire, but if they have a large payload they have a tendency to weathercock, (turn into the wind), and head off at a tangent to where they were aimed. They also have a recovery device, which causes the nose cone to pop off and a parachute to be deployed at apogee, so that the rocket and it's cargo will float safely down and not crash, destroying the mail. Once the parachute is deployed the rocket is again at the mercy of the wind, and on a windy day can be carried a fair distance before becoming tangled in the only really tall tree in the vicinity. 
Any kind of guided rocket is well beyond my capabilities to build, that's for the real physicists with big grants.
The rocket mail postman has to be a rare breed, a runner and a climber, as well as being a rocket wizzard! 


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 02 January 2013 at 16:24
Trinimalam here, excuse me.  A point of correction to this post.  The reprint should have read; copyrighted by H. E. Macintosh, Springfield Mass.  not H. E. McDonald.
I have several of these sheetlets with same H. E. MacIntosh listed.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 02 January 2013 at 16:30
The Space Sheet from Modern Publications of St. Catherine's Canada also exist in a larger format consisting of four sets of the same design.  I may post a scan if there is a request for it.  I do have a few full sheets left.


Posted By: Steve
Date Posted: 02 January 2013 at 20:28
Thanks for the correction. A transcription error on my part swapping from one page to another whilst typing.

Please share your image(s). I for one would be interested to see them.

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Posted By: Admin
Date Posted: 02 January 2013 at 21:10
Yes me too - please post up some pictures.
 
Were you responsible in some way for the production of the remaining full sheets?
 
And welcome to the forum btw!   Big smile


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06 January 2013 at 16:33
Thank you for your interest in viewing the space cinderellas from St. Catherines, Canada.  The following links should show photos of these interesting cinderellas.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/91955612@N07/8355838857/in/photostream -
http://www.flickr.com/photos/91955612@N07/8355838857/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/91955612@N07/8356901906/ - http://www.flickr.com/photos/91955612@N07/8356901906/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/91955612@N07/8355838873/ - http://www.flickr.com/photos/91955612@N07/8355838873/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/91955612@N07/8355838115/ - http://www.flickr.com/photos/91955612@N07/8355838115/
 
ps: I do have like 4-5 sheets available for sale.  Let me know your wants.  Thank you.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06 January 2013 at 16:37
I don't know anything about the circumstances surrounding the printing of these interesting Space cinderellas. I recall purchasing a lot many years ago from a dealer in New Jersey and these were part of that hoard.  Thank you for your interest.


Posted By: Colin
Date Posted: 06 January 2013 at 20:49
Interesting to see the back of the sheet - the perforation looks like a nightmare!

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Posted By: Steve
Date Posted: 01 March 2017 at 06:43
I have been looking out for the Dan Dare Interplanetary stamp folder for well over 4 years and have finally not been outbid on one of these.
Dan Dare was one of the major stories in the Eagle comin from 1950 to 1967. The stamps date to 1953 under licence by Lever Brothers to promote Lifebuoy soap. Two stamps, from a set of 32, were included with each bar of soap. The folder and a starter pack of 8 eight stamps was orderable for just 7½d (thats old pence - about 3p). My album have the stamps stuck in AND this is the intention. Unmounted mint was not an option to kids in 1953 so this folder is the real thing.





The popularity of Dan Dare cn be measured by the fact that he has featured on Royal Mail stamps


and that he gets a mention in songs by David Bowie, Elton John and Pink Floyd.

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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: 02 March 2017 at 23:21
Nice cinderellas, Steve. Thumbs Up

The production quality looks pretty reasonable and quite a number of the designs look to be pretty detailed and impressive in terms of their illustration and design content. Is there any indication in the folder of who printed the stamps and what printing process they were done with? How do you think they were printed from looking at them in the flesh?


Posted By: Steve
Date Posted: 02 March 2017 at 23:59
They are very well produced Joolz. Just like the real thing, and the blurb actually states that they had design influence from real postage stamps. The designer himself was a Leonard True, but can find no further information about him or the printers. The printing is very sharp and I believe they are comb perforated which are pointers towards a company used to printing stamps.
If you think that today's merchandising of fictional characters goes over the top, the same can be said for Dan Dare in the fifties. Any emphemera associated with the comic strip normally sells for a premium.
The offer of these stamps only ran for 8 months so that limits the number of the complete albums available these days, though they did run a swaps programme so you could complete the set. However that would mean buying 2 bars of that brand of soap a month.On the net you can see these items selling for £90 £140 or more, so reckon I got a bargain.
I still haven't found out why the single stamps that started this thread are postmarked North Walsham, Norfolk. 23 March 1963.

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Posted By: Steve
Date Posted: 03 March 2017 at 00:18
The same stamp offer was made in Australia during 1957, this time by Solvol Soap (which was owned by the same company as WD40, not Lever Bros).
Here is a large image of one stamp to show the quality and level of detail



They were printed se-tenant so perhaps one sheet comprised the full 32 stamp set, or perhaps done in batches of 8 for each part of the release.


And if you doubt the values put on the folder, an unopened packet of 2 stamps sold for £64!

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Posted By: Panterra
Date Posted: 01 April 2017 at 18:10
http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/inzander33/media/Sorbie-2015-Space-set-stpbds-sized_zpsapc4bbvk.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">

Here are some nice space stamps I did back in 2015, for my friend Andree in Scotland.

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Sorbie Marsh 2014 Peppa Pig miniature sheet.

Originally posted by Andree Davies Andree Davies wrote:

Sorbie Marsh, home of the Hannah Clan
by Andree Davies

It began as an innocent request from a three year old

Members of the Kirkcudbright Philatelic Society run a junior stamp club at a local school.  One of those members was telling me that his three-year-old grand daughter wanted to collect stamps, but they must be Peppa Pig.

So putting my thinking cap on, I contacted a fellow Cinderella Stamp Club member https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Ronald_Henderson" rel="nofollow - - many cinderella stamps over the years.  I explained the young girl’s request, and he very kindly obliged.  Peppa Pig came out in two values and a nice minisheet, and we continued with more Sorbie stamps.

I add them to my mail, and they often attract the local postmark on them as well as on the GB stamps nearby!

http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/inzander33/media/sorbie-pmked-25jul16-stpbds-sized_zpsqm7lfmht.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
Sorbie Marsh stamps with Royal Mail postmarks of 25th July 2016 plus the usual "Machins" to pay the postage.


So where is Sorbie, you ask?

It is a small rural village in southwest Scotland, in Dumfries & Galloway.  The cows and sheep far outnumber the sturdy human inhabitants, who rise at 5 a.m. and are in bed by 10 p.m. – farming means long hours!

Mobile phone? – forget it. Internet? – maybe it will work, maybe it won’t.

 
We even have a street light. Being in a dark sky area, we see the wonder of the night sky and even the Northern Lights.

The members of the Hannah Clan gather every year at the Sorbie Tower. I sent some of my Sorbie Marsh stamps to a member of the Hannah Clan in Colorado, who is putting them on the clan's website.  I’ve also sent some to other collector friends.


Showing my Sorbie collection in Dumfries and Kirkcudbright raised some laughs, but you never know.  They may fetch millions in years to come!  Those showing my grandsons playing the bagpipes have proved to be most popular, as have the Outer Space Research.

http://s1168.photobucket.com/user/inzander33/media/Sorbie-2015-Space-set-stpbds-sized_zpsapc4bbvk.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
Sorbie Marsh 2015 Space Pioneers set.

Many thanks to Bruce who has made a very happy three-year-old. So Sorbie is now on the map, philatelically-speaking.  For future issues, I hope we will see a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belted_Galloway" rel="nofollow - - Sorbie Tower .  I welcome other ideas.

If you would like some Sorbie stamps, I am happy to trade for your spares, though I prefer Haiti and cinderellas generally.  Contact me at:
Mrs Andree Davies, 5 Reiffer Park Gardens, Sorbie, Wigtownshire, DG8 8EJ, Scotland.

Let’s keep Sorbie on the map!

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Fun philately in bonnie Scotland!  Big smile


Posted By: Daniel
Date Posted: 25 October 2017 at 07:15
I also have the Dan Dare booklet so I can restore the images here:

https://flic.kr/p/CyrWVu" rel="nofollow"> https://flic.kr/p/CyrWVu" rel="nofollow - Dan Dare 2 001 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/101603119@N05/" rel="nofollow - Spicer57 , on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/Cys2mo" rel="nofollow"> https://flic.kr/p/Cys2mo" rel="nofollow - Dan Dare 3 001 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/101603119@N05/" rel="nofollow - Spicer57 , on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/YzP5Uy" rel="nofollow"> https://flic.kr/p/YzP5Uy" rel="nofollow - Dan Dare 4 001 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/101603119@N05/" rel="nofollow - Spicer57 , on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/ZAg1tG" rel="nofollow"> https://flic.kr/p/ZAg1tG" rel="nofollow - Dan Dare 5 001 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/101603119@N05/" rel="nofollow - Spicer57 , on Flickr


Posted By: Panterra
Date Posted: 26 October 2017 at 00:48


Here are some nice space stamps I did back in 2015, for my friend Andree in Scotland.


Sorbie Marsh 2014 Peppa Pig miniature sheet.

Originally posted by Andree Davies Andree Davies wrote:

Sorbie Marsh, home of the Hannah Clan
by Andree Davies

It began as an innocent request from a three year old

Members of the Kirkcudbright Philatelic Society run a junior stamp club at a local school.  One of those members was telling me that his three-year-old grand daughter wanted to collect stamps, but they must be Peppa Pig.

So putting my thinking cap on, I contacted a fellow Cinderella Stamp Club member https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Ronald_Henderson" rel="nofollow - - many cinderella stamps over the years.  I explained the young girl’s request, and he very kindly obliged.  Peppa Pig came out in two values and a nice minisheet, and we continued with more Sorbie stamps.

I add them to my mail, and they often attract the local postmark on them as well as on the GB stamps nearby!


Sorbie Marsh stamps with Royal Mail postmarks of 25th July 2016 plus the usual "Machins" to pay the postage.


So where is Sorbie, you ask?

It is a small rural village in southwest Scotland, in Dumfries & Galloway.  The cows and sheep far outnumber the sturdy human inhabitants, who rise at 5 a.m. and are in bed by 10 p.m. – farming means long hours!

Mobile phone? – forget it. Internet? – maybe it will work, maybe it won’t.

 
We even have a street light. Being in a dark sky area, we see the wonder of the night sky and even the Northern Lights.

The members of the Hannah Clan gather every year at the Sorbie Tower. I sent some of my Sorbie Marsh stamps to a member of the Hannah Clan in Colorado, who is putting them on the clan's website.  I’ve also sent some to other collector friends.


Showing my Sorbie collection in Dumfries and Kirkcudbright raised some laughs, but you never know.  They may fetch millions in years to come!  Those showing my grandsons playing the bagpipes have proved to be most popular, as have the Outer Space Research.


Sorbie Marsh 2015 Space Pioneers set.

Many thanks to Bruce who has made a very happy three-year-old. So Sorbie is now on the map, philatelically-speaking.  For future issues, I hope we will see a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belted_Galloway" rel="nofollow - - Sorbie Tower .  I welcome other ideas.

If you would like some Sorbie stamps, I am happy to trade for your spares, though I prefer Haiti and cinderellas generally.  Contact me at:
Mrs Andree Davies, 5 Reiffer Park Gardens, Sorbie, Wigtownshire, DG8 8EJ, Scotland.

Let’s keep Sorbie on the map!

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Fun philately in bonnie Scotland!  Big smile



Posted By: Keith
Date Posted: 03 November 2017 at 00:15
You've all forgotten the Wadfest 2011 issue produced by (much younger!) Colin and Alan!

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Posted By: Zzzzz
Date Posted: 05 November 2017 at 23:07
And this one...


Discovered at the weekend!  Big smile


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Posted By: roc-chic
Date Posted: 07 November 2017 at 02:45
Hmmm...

I got this one 


So, who has the rarer of the two?

LOL


Posted By: Daniel
Date Posted: 10 November 2017 at 01:37
Originally posted by roc-chic roc-chic wrote:

Hmmm...

I got this one 


So, who has the rarer of the two?

LOL

There was a nice lot of new stamps from Colin. Sadly, I didn't win any Cry


Posted By: Daniel
Date Posted: 10 November 2017 at 01:43
It is always good to see new cinderellas being produced. Here is a miniature sheet from The Perforated Post, Fleetwood, PA, USA marking the 20th anniversary of the Cassini-Huygen space mission to Saturn:

https://flic.kr/p/21joSKo" rel="nofollow"> https://flic.kr/p/21joSKo" rel="nofollow - Perforated Post by https://www.flickr.com/photos/101603119@N05/" rel="nofollow - Spicer57 , on Flickr


Posted By: Daniel
Date Posted: 10 November 2017 at 14:58
And here's a recent one for Star Trek on a postcard:

https://flic.kr/p/Zeytrj" rel="nofollow"> https://flic.kr/p/Zeytrj" rel="nofollow - Star Trek 50 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/101603119@N05/" rel="nofollow - Spicer57 , on Flickr


Posted By: Colin
Date Posted: 11 November 2017 at 01:42
Originally posted by Daniel Daniel wrote:


There was a nice lot of new stamps from Colin. Sadly, I didn't win any Cry



They were only trial designs produced to act as test-prints on specimens sheets of gummed paper, hence I didn't make a fuss about them.

They will never exist as sheets but will be used for general decoration on envelopes.  

If you saw anything that you are really keen on give me a shout  :-)  



And to answer the original question - who has the rarer of the two Space stamp designs shown - there are only about 20 of each of those - so both pretty rare!




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